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Just some more practice.

I have been trying to do a little more with shading and ink techniques but this drawing [link] really pushed the idea into my head.

Credit to the inspiration of course.
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AjDrawer Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
You know, I always wondered just how thick the armor really was. Often times, at least from what I see in comics, these armors, especially War Machine, unleashed so much weapon i get the impression the artist forgotten there's a person inside.

Otherwise, that's a lot of missiles and blasters. Can't wait for the movie.
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D-mowmow Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Awesome stuff :heart:
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks lady:)
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D-mowmow Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Very welcome good sir :)
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HaroldPotter Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Looking good! Can the missile launchers be jettisoned when they're out of ammo?
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The shoulder pads maybe. If you look at the "in progress" sketch of this everything is contained in the suit. He looks like iron man with a shoulder cannon. Maybe a little bulkier.

I got to thinking about our talk on why he carries shell firing weapons so I got rid of them altogether. The package you see here is designed for missiles and energy weapons with a few exceptions: the rectangular gun under his right arm is an explosive disk launcher. Kind of like sticky grenades the size of a drink coaster, then the left arm cannon is a combination grenade launcher/flamethrower.

Thanks for checking it out!
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HaroldPotter Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
And the shoulder cannon is a laser weapon, I presume? Any melee weapons or stuff like that? Also, are the repulsors functional or are they just for attitude and thrust?
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As this suit is more based on the movie style I'd say the repulsors are functional. He probably wouldn't need them that much except as a less than lethal alternative since they do seem to have a concussive ability.

The shoulder cannon is up for grabs. I was really leaning toward a plasma caster but I haven't decided yet. Basically I'd want it to be a tank killer. In my opinion the minigun never made much sense. Why have a gun that big that's less powerful than your hand weapons??
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HaroldPotter Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Functional, yes, but probably not weapons grade. Tony originally used the repulsors as thrusters, it was only when he changed the settings during construction of the Mark III that he realized that they were a potent weapon as well. The Mark II was a test bed, and the implication of how Rhodey uses it and what Hammer does to it seems to be that it has no weapons or defensive tools whatsoever. And we never see Rhodey using the Mark II/War Machine repulsors as weapons, those two Bifrost-style explosions notwithstanding. And the Unibeam probably doesn't work either, even though we've only seen that used one or two times. Movie War Machine has effectively no energy weapons of any kind, and I'm only speculating that the Iron Patriot from Iron Man 3 has a laser based on how minimalist and compact the weapon is.

And speaking of Justin Hammer, that also explains the crap weapons War Machine had. That idiot basically strapped a bunch of standard-grade stuff to it, he didn't innovate or come up with anything special on his own. Most likely because the weaponry and technology simply didn't exist outside of SHIELD or Tony's basement, but we're still talking about a guy pretending that a shotgun is impressive when you've strapped it to the greatest tactical weapon in the history of warfare. The Mark VI armor is probably a more effective weapon than the War Machine, even when discounting that it's several versions more advanced than the base Mark II.

I would say that you have three alternatives, all of which are feasible for the movie's setting AND limited to something that the US military could come up with given the setting.
Idea 1 is a sort of repulsor cannon created by reverse-engineering the repulsors and non-functioning unibeam combined with Hydra weapon technology and based on observations of Iron Man's capabilities, substantially larger than Tony's handheld unit but also designed to operate at higher ranges and power, sort of like your plasma caster idea. This gives War Machine a "limitless use" weapon while also effectively being Rhodey's only energy weapon. It could even have a Hydra-style power coupler to homage the gatling gun's ammo feed, and emphasize how jury-rigged the whole project is.
Idea 2 is a laser cannon, sort of a larger version of Tony's wristie weapons, which I'm envisioning are one shots only because Tony didn't have time to fully miniaturize the weapons, and prioritized power and accuracy over reliability. Make the weapon larger, load the barrel with capacitors and cooling devices, and you could have a plausible laser gun that's not too much smaller than the prototypes we have today. Rhodey could even fire laser "pulses" or "beams" for different needs.
Idea 3 is basically a miniature railgun, not quite at the weapon phase but the solid weapon fits War Machine's modus operandi, and it feels like a prototype the military would bolt to this thing. It WOULD have limited ammo, but a railgun that small would also be firing small rounds, which could help in extending the meager ammo supply. This honestly feels more like a sniper's weapon, though.
Of the three, I prefer the first two. It feels a bit more like something the military of the setting would do, it's still technologically feasible given what we've seen, and it gives Rhodey a solid energy weapon (no pun intended).

I'm actually very curious as to what they're planning to give Iron Patriot in IM3, besides the back gun which I'm still pretty sure is a laser. He seems to have two forearm weapons that could be specialty load rockets, and I'm wondering if they've finally got the palm repulsors and unibeam working enough to be used as a weapon. Well, only six months before we find out.

And I'm sorry, this turned into a mini-essay. :\ I did not intend that.
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Its funny you mention railgun, I had considered a weapon like that. I wanted a real heavy punch like the big Gauss rifles from mechwarrior.

His hand repulsors did work in the movie since they were able to produce equal output to Tony's to create the explosions;)

What's really funny to me is the hammer drones were basically hammers best design and even the standard 9mm and 5.56 guns in war machine's gauntlets were literally shredding them to pieces lol.

I noticed in the avengers when tony is using the mk7 lasers he has this kind of flapping effect on his forearms. I'm not sure if the new suit is designed to automatically switch cartridges or if this is for heat dissipation. I never liked those lasers. They cut through trees and steel like butter and there's no set limit to their effective kill range that I can see. This would be a disaster in a populated area. I think they're just way too op.
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HaroldPotter Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Maybe War Machine can have swappable weapons for various missions? Like in that Iron Man 2 video game?

I mean, they obviously worked, but at the same time, the un-modified and un-weaponized Mark II was able to produce the same blast, and I somehow doubt Tony was aiming for a killing shot against his friend, so to say. And considering we're talking about what is either gravity reversion technology or some sort of super-tech plasma thruster that is in either case powered by a fusion reactor reverse engineered from Asgardian magitech, so weird shit could be going down there.

Oh god, they were shit. Like, the only logical explanation I can see is that they were mean to be showroom models without proper armor, and Vanko was only able to get them armed and fueled… and Hammer's people must be truly incompetent to let that through. :\ Personally, I'd have preferred to see the normal guns being ineffective unless Rhodey hit joints or weak points, and forced to rely on his small handful of rockets and the gatling gun and the chainsaw that we never saw. At least with Tony's weapons, you know he could build a tiny armor-piercing explosive round that could kill something like that.

I'm okay with the arm lasers. It feels like the sort of thing Tony would include: small, flashy, overpowered, and kind of scary. I bet Tony added them after Vanko's whips proved able to block his repulsor blasts. Their range probably isn't all that great either. And Tony certainly only seems to pull them out when the stakes are really down, like a horde of crazed drones trying to kill him and his friend and a whole bunch of people, or a giant killer space cyborg alien whale thing is rampaging through New York.
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yeah, what you say about the killing blow against his friend makes sense. For some reason I had it in my head that they were using full power but I guess they wouldn't in a brotherly spat. Good observation there;)
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True, I will admit they limit his use. Maybe we can let the lasers slide. And I like your explanation for them being an alternative after the whip thing.

Here's some trivia and another possible answer. Back in the mid 1900s they were building big luxury Cadillacs and cramming every feature they could into them. The problem was the generators they used back then couldn't power a lot of extra gadgets so they had to build more powerful engines. Its possible the original arc reactor just didn't have the juice to power the lasers and when he came up with the new model he figured it was time to add some more flash like you say.


My problem with the whales is how they handled them. Hulk punches one to death with one blow. Why didn't they just let him kill them all? For that matter, why didn't they just let hulk rip the whole roof off of stark tower and throw the portal generator into space?

I guess that's just the law of movies lol
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MrRobotov Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Great work. :D
I really like how you did all the lighting and shades. It gives the pic a lot of depth.
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Hopeyouguessedmyname Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!
This is still in the practice stage I'd say. I'm learning so much from looking at other artists work on DA. Hopefully I can get as good as some of my inspirations :)
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MrRobotov Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome. :D
I wish you good luck.
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